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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping...
and security of global youths, hence the Non Summit Meeting.
(Episode 141)
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-Yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
- We are seeing some new faces here today. - Yes.
Because of a temporary business trip...
Mark and Alex are temporarily absent due to a business trip.
Chris, let's start with your self introduction.
Hello everyone. I'm Chris Johnson.
I'm from San Jose, California, USA.
I've been in Korea for about seven years.
- Mark was the previous USA representative? - Yes.
- US representative? - Previous?
- He said previous representative. - He's sending him away.
That was fast.
No, I didn't send him away.
I'm just taking this spot for today.
And I heard he was from the East Coast?
I'm from West Coast, California.
So I want to give a little West Coast style and show you guys...
what California is like today.
- Nice to meet you all. - Wow.
(Nice to meet you.)
His style of gesturing is definitely...
different from the East Coast.
It feels more natural.
It's more open...
and more friendly.
Yes, more friendly.
Because the weather's so nice, the people there are also...
When you think California, you think of the beaches and sun.
- Tanning... - And surfers.
- And people working out outside. - Yes.
And there's that famous song, "Californian Dreaming", right?
"Californian Dreaming" makes us think of something great and dream-like.
- But you said you were from San Jose? - Yes.
Isn't that called the capital city of Silicon Valley?
Why was it called that?
Yes. That place is the heart of Silicon Valley.
Silicon Valley is known for its semiconductor industry.
The material used to make those semiconductors are silicon.
That area is geographically a valley.
- That's why it's called Silicon Valley? - Yes.
California has a much higher GDP than Italy.
Is that true?
Italy ranks 8th in the whole world.
- But California ranks higher. - Much more than Spain too.
Besides Niklas and Oogi, we have to all bow down to him.
We're not just talking about one or two wealthy people.
Having all the CEOs gathered there...
- People who has the world at their beck and call... - Yes.
In San Jose,
there's a neighborhood where a lot of rich people live...
- called Palo Alto. - Palo Alto?
- Palo Alto. - Mark Zuckerberg lives there.
There are so many CEOs of IT companies living there.
I'll do my best to show you the Californian, West Coast style today.
- Yes. - We're glad to have you.
For some reason, he looks a lot nervous. Alejandro.
Representing Spain, please introduce yourself.
(Hello. I'm Alejandro Sanchez Sanabria.)
(I came from the Canary Islands, the Jeju Island of Spain.)
(I've been in Korea for five years and am working as a Spanish instructor.)
(Nice to meet you.)
I'm from the Jeju Island of Spain.
I'm from the Canary Islands and called Alejandro.
Canary Islands is made up of seven separate islands.
From Spain, it takes two hours and 30 minutes to get there by plane.
Because it's close to Africa,
it's often called the "Europe of Africa".
It's always spring on the island I'm from.
- It's spring all season. - That must be so nice.
What was it like when you first experienced winter in Korea?
Winter? I thought I would die.
I still have a lot of trouble adjusting to winter even now.
- You were speaking the same language as Christian, right? - Yes.
- We both use Spanish but... - The accent?
it might feel different.
I would like to hear what it's like hearing a Mexican speak Spanish...
- from a Spaniard's point of view. - They're different countries after all.
- Yes. - Mexico and Latin America...
- use the "s" sound. - Yes.
But Spain uses the "Th" sound more.
(For example...)
In Mexico, it'll be...
(Cecilia has 600 pairs of shoes.)
And in Spain...
(Spain's accent sounds more thick.)
- It's different. - It's more thick.
Yes, it's more thick.
- Mexicans really hate this kind of accent. - Why?
It makes us uncomfortable to hear it.
Because of all the slurring, it's hard to understand them.
- Is that true? - Yes.
Does that mean Spanish celebrity aren't popular in Mexico?
There are some singers that are really popular.
But when they're actors, they speak really strangely.
It's the same for us. People in Quebec has an accent.
- So our films don't really do well in France. - It's because they're not good.
(It's because they're not good.)
(Why you...)
You guys are so brutal to each other.
We spent some time talking about California and Spain.
By the way...
(The hottest issue in South Korea.)
(An unprecedented incident where President Park Geun-hye was impeached.)
How did each country react to our president's impeachment?
In Japan, it was the cover story.
- It made all the headlines... - Why do you have to talk about it so happily?
(The impeachment of the president made the headlines.)
The scene where they said, "You're dismissed." kept coming out on the news.
You mean that part where they said, " You're dismissed from your position"?
(The sentencing scene became huge, even on Japanese TV.)
They'd keep replaying that scene on TV.
Because we don't go on strike or protests,
it was shocking that something like this could happen through protesting.
It was the first time in history for Korea to ever impeach..
- a president using this method. - That's what they said?
Yes. They said that's what happened. Also, after that,
it seems like they're focusing more on the presidential election now.
- Yes. - What about America?
- Us? - They made a huge issue on CNN.
Yes. They just stated, "Park out".
That's what they wrote.
Park out.
Also, my brother came to visit me in Korea not that long ago.
The protest left a great impression on him.
He's also anti-Trump.
He thinks it'll be good if everyone got together to protest Trump too.
Aren't there a lot of peaceful protests happening about Trump?
Most of them are peaceful but...
- Some? - There are some that are still very violent.
So the police has to be brought in to suppress it.
They go around breaking windows and such.
But, because of how peaceful the protests were in Korea,
my brother was very impressed...
with how there was no violence.
Pakistan wants to make Korea...
- into its role model right now. - They do?
- It's because... - Thank you very much.
It's because although our prime minister was sent to court,
nothing's been happening for close to a whole year now.
They're still fighting each other.
- Who? - The prime minister.
- The prime minister? - Yes.
He's going through the proceedings to be impeached?
No. We're telling him to just go home but he's not going home.
- Is he staying there saying that's his home? - No.
It's because there was a huge scandal...
about him pocketing the government money. After he was exposed for it,
we've been trying so hard to...
The Korean government was able to send their president home.
- But why hasn't ours done anything yet? - Isn't there an impeachment process?
- There is but the prime minister pulled some strings to stop them from... - Oh.
Mexicans are very jealous of Koreans.
It's because we would like to impeach our president too. But we can't.
We really can't.
It didn't work. We protested and did everything but it didn't work.
(The citizens were sick and tired of the president's corruption.)
(They tried to denounce him using protests and low ratings, but it didn't work.)
- Do you have an impeachment process? - Yes. We do.
Then why hasn't it been put in place?
But even if he was impeached,
- Yes? - he would still be paid a salary.
What?
- For us, impeachment means there's nothing for her. - Yes.
But it's not like that in Mexico.
How about Italy?
There weren't really any responses...
It's because our process is different too.
To us, being president isn't very special.
In Italy, if people's ratings go below 50 percent,
they automatically resign themselves.
- Wow. - When their ratings drop?
That was why Prime Minister Lenzi resigned from his position last year.
The citizens voted...
but his ratings dropped.
If your ratings drop, you can't lead them anymore
as a leader. That's why they resign from their positions.
- Voluntarily? - Yes, voluntarily.
- That's why... - That's so nerve wrecking.
If your ratings drop, you just step down?
Our president doesn't have any power.
Our prime minister has all the power.
When he suggest something to the National Assembly,
he'll need more than 50 percent to follow him.
If that doesn't happen, nothing can be done.
- That's why... - Did Berlusconi have high ratings?
He had more than 50 percent ratings.
- He did? - That's crazy.
In three months, the French...
will be jealous of Koreans.
- You think so? - Yes. In three months.
- In three months? - Why?
- They think you won't like your new president either. - We'll do a coup d'etat?
Anyway, today is...
Yes, although we have a lot of people here...
- Our beloved member... - Yes.
- with his scrunched up face... - Oogi's friend...
- Yes. - Friend?
We don't see the Chinese representative, Wang Xinlin, here.
Because the talk we're about to have is too sensitive...
to be discussed with a Chinese representative,
we would like apologize for the inconvenience.
- Yes. - Saying personal opinions is...
- It'll be very loaded. - Because it's just a sensitive topic...
We'll be discussing the deployment of the THAAD in Korea.
I'm sure you all heard about THAAD.
They're suited to intercept and destroy short to intermediate range missiles.
They're weapons that are said to act as a form of defense from attacks.
(A high altitude anti-ballistic missile system)
(The citizens are split over the deployment of such systems...)
We have agreed to deploy THAAD to suppress threats from North Korea...
On March 6th, equipments for THAAD...
have arrived through the Osan military base.
Not only domestically, but it has been garnering international attention.
I'm sure all Koreans know but China is completely against this.
China said both America and Korea will suffer the consequences for their actions...
and had taken measures of retaliations.
(We'll be taking measures to protect our own safety.)
(America and Korea will suffer the consequences for their actions.)
China has forbidden Hallyu, canceled all Korean tours, shut down Korean malls,
and are boycotting all Korean products.
We would like to hear what each country thinks about this issue.
From America's perspective,
the way China's acting right now is irrational...
and inappropriate.
Criticism or pressure on the ROK to abandon...
its self-defense would be unreasonable and inappropriate.
It's a diplomatic issue so why are they causing...
inconvenience to the Korean industries?
Especially Lotte...
When they agreed to lend their site to the Korean government,
they have been heavily criticized by the Chinese people.
This is a diplomatic and government issue.
So why does China have to involve innocent people?
Why do they need to ruin people who want to go on trips?
They do not understand why they would do this.
And North Korea has always been provoking South Korea.
They shot missiles,
kidnapped people,
and have constantly threatened us.
But China didn't do anything.
They didn't do anything to stop them.
- So... - Why does the American government...
wants to deploy THAAD here? Is it because of North Korea?
Yes, it's because of North Korea.
Do you really believe that?
- Me? - Well...
- You don't believe it's true? - Well, for us...
I think differently.
I think America...
is provoking China to a certain extent.
The situation between North and South Korea has been going on for so many years now.
But for them to deploy the THAAD now?
It's reasonable to think that deploying such a military facility here...
is like directly blackmailing China to some extent.
It's only natural for China to think of it that way.
- China feels threatened? - In China's case,
their biggest rival, America,
is setting up a military facility near them.
It's only natural to feel uncomfortable with that.
And there were only two methods they could resort to.
Either restrict the economy this way...
or make their own form of military weapon.
But if they go for option number two,
having a Cold war is inevitable.
That's why they resorted to acting childishly.
Although this is damaging to their relations with Korea,
China doesn't have any power to tell America to take it out.
Because it's Korean land, it's up to Korea to say that.
But Niklas, long ago, North Korea...
wasn't experimenting with nuclear weapons.
Isn't that why they didn't need THAAD back then?
- Well, that situation... - They didn't need it back then.
Because they have nuclear weapons, isn't that why we need THAAD now?
If North Korea developed their nuclear bomb, they could have used it by now.
- But they haven't. - Yes, they haven't.
- They haven't. - They could have but they didn't.
That's our policy in France.
France also has nuclear bombs.
We also kept it as a warning.
- We once used it to... - Threaten?
Yes, threaten other countries.
But AurĂŠlien doesn't seem to know too much about nuclear weapons.
There's this thing...
- Tristan is the expert nuclear physicist. - called Doomsday Clock.
When the clock...
strikes 12, it's a nuclear war.
Right now, the time...
changed to two and a half minutes until midnight not that long ago.
It shows how close we are to having a nuclear war.
- It's getting more likely... - Because of THAAD?
- There are a close to five other reasons... - But THAAD...
But even if they want to use THAAD,
THAAD can't do anything against a lot of missiles.
Two superpowers are fighting.
Either way, Korea's going to get hurt.
We also got a lot of articles...
saying the deployment of THAAD was useless.
- Deploying THAAD will be useless? - Like he said, if they shoot two missiles...
- They can't be blocked. - Yes, they can't.
- That was what the media said? - Yes.
(American missile specialist states THAAD can't intercept more than one missile.)
Europe might have a different perspective about this than Korea or Japan.
Because there's a greater...
possibility for us to be hit with North Korea's missiles...
Just recently, they shot one near Japan's territory.
Yes. That caused a huge issue.
North Korea shot a missile...
but it landed near the Japanese ocean.
- It means they could hit you. - Yes.
That's why we're getting a...
sense of crisis through these incidents.
Through the deployment of THAAD,
we think it'll be best to strengthen the Korean, American, and Japanese alliance.
There are a lot of articles about THAAD in the Italian newspapers,
the popular media opinion is that...
China is only acting that way because they're...
- against the Korean, American, Japanese alliance. - They're wary?
When China has to negotiate with America later on,
America can use this as a weapon against them.
They can threaten them...
and use this as an ace up their sleeve.
I honestly don't know. Putting the usefulness...
and necessity of THAAD aside,
Korea definitely didn't intend it to be used against China.
It's not intended to be used to attack China.
It's being set up as a measure of defense for Korea.
Even America told China many times that it was just for self defense.
- But China just took it very personally. - Yes.
But there are two modes on THAAD.
There are two modes.
The first mode...
enables America to...
They can't scan as far as China.
But the second mode enables America to scan as far as China.
They can scan China...
but America stated they wouldn't use the second mode.
They said they would only use the first mode.
But within 12 minutes, China opposed it stating...
America could always change its mind.
- It's because they can scan everything in China with those radars. - Yes.
Personally, I think that instead of prohibiting businesses with Korea,
they should make America sign a pledge they wouldn't use it.
- Isn't that a better method... - Would China really trust something like that?
I saw a Chinese person being interviewed and heard from their perspective.
"Why does Korea have to set up something that won't benefit them and..."
"push our buttons? Are they looking down on us?" That's what he said.
That Chinese person.
(Koreans are foolish.)
(It wouldn't have been surprising if Japan set up THAAD.)
(But Koreans always take America's side.)
(THAAD is a huge threat to China. Until now, we imported so many things from Korea,)
(they have turned their backs on us. That's not right.)
But to be honest, there's no where else as close and easy...
to travel as Korea for the Chinese.
- That's right. - They're so close by.
- They liked coming here. - But preventing them from coming here is so irrational.
It's a very childish thing to do.
The problem doesn't lie in how they're forbidden from coming here.
- What's more scary is how they might start to hate us. - Yes.
It's not about whether we're forbidden to go or not.
"Those bad people..."
"How could they do this to us? Let's not go there."
This is hard on the Koreans...
and hard on the people who want to travel to China.
Both sides are having a hard time.
It should be up to the government to talk it out with each other...
but for them to make such unreasonable policies...
We have a European Union.
When there's a problem in Europe,
it's up to the European countries to solve the problem.
From our perspective, we think it's only natural...
for China and Japan to deal with North Korea.
What does America have to do with it? That's what we think.
It's almost like calling America when Italy is fighting with France.
- During World War 2... - Yes, we called for their help.
But these days, things have been shifting...
- Yes. - I thought it was obvious...
but there has been a lot of questions about why America had to get involved.
Should we just leave? I also think we're butting in too much.
How could you say it like that?
- It's fine. We can leave. - He speaks like a Californian.
- Try telling that to Trump. - Isn't that what Trump has been saying?
"We can leave,"
"so pay us."
- But... - It's not so simple.
It's not as simple as that.
I'm sure each country also had incidents where they had to suffer...
the consequences because of strained diplomatic relations.
Like Korea, there was an incident where we also had to suffer in a similar way.
Back in 2012, we had issues with China over territory.
- It's really similar. They also boycotted us. - Yes.
They prohibited tourism. And they also put a restriction on Japanese shows.
But what was most damaging was the sales of our cars.
Our sales of car dropped over 50 percent.
I remember how when they were protesting, they would go around...
- breaking any Japanese cars they saw. - Yes.
When they saw Japanese cars, they would just tear it apart.
(You couldn't even think of buying a Japanese car during that time.)
And tourism dropped 34 percent within a month.
Ironically, this was when we had a lot of Chinese tourist in Korea.
Because we were expecting it, Japan made up for the loss...
- by focusing its market in Korea and Southeast Asia. - To make up for the loss?
Yes. We focused all our efforts towards those regions.
And there was this analysis...
that kind of trouble wasn't benefiting any sides.
- Diplomatically? - Yes, diplomatically speaking.
- Both sides were damaged. - So these regulations that China has placed...
won't be able to go on for a long time.
Because we had that kind of outlook, we were able to overcome it.
And before we knew it, their boycott has ended.
And within a year, we started to have Chinese tourists again.
For us, in 2008,
when Sarkozy met Dalai Lama,
he supported Tibet's ownership of the land...
and that made China really angry.
Because of that, the relationships between our countries became a little bad.
And they also boycotted French products, just like Japan.
- They boycotted French products? - Yes.
And during 2008, when there was the Beijing Olympics,
- they have that opening ceremony with the flame... - Torch?
Yes, the torch.
Because of their opposition to Tibet's...
independence, when they passed it to France...
(1. They interfered during the Olympic torch relay.)
(2. They pushed the Olympic torch bearer.)
(They poured water.)
(They even bring in a fire extinguisher.)
(In the end, they had to carry the torch in a car.)
The torch was extinguished three times.
We started to develop negative feelings for Chinese people.
That was in 2008.
We had a problem. So,
we sent our prime minister to China...
to meet with Hu Jintao.
To try and reconcile with China diplomatically.
We tried to settle the problems.
You handled this diplomatically. That's the lesson, right?
Oogi said it before, as time passes by...
- It won't last. - Right. It won't last.
Time heals everything. That's the answer.
He sounds like a spiritual guru.
- Time is the answer. - He's the spiritual guru from California.
- The US had a very bad relationship with Cuba, right? - Yes.
Back in 1959, the Cuban Revolution occurred, right?
- They became a Communist country. - Right.
This occurred at the height of the Cold War.
The relationship between the two countries was very bad. Former President Obama...
met with Fidel Castro while he was in office and foster diplomatic relations.
They conceded to tentatively restore relations with each other.
After talking with former President Obama, Fidel Castro agreed to open up a little.
Now, US citizens are allowed to travel and visit Cuba.
He agreed to allow US citizens into Cuba.
So, US citizens can visit Cuba.
But there are a lot of conditions.
- However, compared to the past, the situation has gotten a lot better. - Right.
- You have to take it one small step at a time. - Diplomatically.
We can't be certain that this peace is definite.
We had a very recent problem with the US.
Mexico exports a tremendous amount of avocado to the US.
We had an agreement to sell it to them.
The US is using the administration's problems with Mexico...
to refuse almost 2 billion dollars worth of avocado.
- They have refused to buy it. - Avocados are very important.
- Yes, it is. - Avocados start to rot after three days.
But...
They are using the US administration as an excuse,
but in truth, when Donald Trump became the President of the United States,
everyone in Mexico did have an inkling that this could happen.
- Mexican do suspect that President Trump might be behind this. - Scary.
What we found even more suspicious was,
the season in which US citizens consume the most avocado is...
during the Super Bowl.
- The Super Bowl. - That was recent.
The reason is...
They need it for guacamole.
- Right. They need it for barbecues. - Yes.
They need it for guacamole. So, a lot of avocados are bought.
But, the US refused to allow our avocado produce in during that time.
- That's when the demand is highest. - Yes.
- We felt that they planned it on purpose. - The loss would be huge.
- Right. - During that time, they exported avocados from a different country.
The avocados weren't from Mexico.
Did you really have to do that? You've been buying from us for a long time.
They desperately wanted avocados.
What can we do? Avocados are delicious.
K-pop and Korean dramas have been restricted in Iran, right?
Pakistan also faced similar restrictions for our cultural exports...
- in India as well. - I see.
Just recently, there was a terrorist attack in India, right?
Pakistan was not responsible for the attacks.
But because of these suspicions,
India suspended all Pakistani actors and actresses from working in Bollywood.
They also halted films that were already in production.
They also told the actors to leave India by a certain date.
- Goodness me. - We also had problems like this.
Pakistan enjoy watching Indian films.
We love Bollywood and a lot of people watch those films.
But India refuses to show Pakistani dramas on their networks.
- They have placed certain restrictions like that. - Do you acknowledge this?
He's right.
But the real reason we don't air Pakistani dramas is because they're boring.
Pakistani actors are really bad.
- What are they bad at? - They're bad actors.
Goodness me.
They are bad actors and the shows are boring.
As Zahid just said,
- Pakistan... - I mean...
(Talk incoherently)
Pakistanis do love Indian movies and dramas.
- But Pakistan... - We don't like your dramas.
Well... Anyway, they like watching boring dramas.
Indian dramas go for at least 150 episodes.
- Who would watch that? It doesn't end. - 150 episodes.
In Pakistani dramas, the actors talk by themselves.
Who would watch that? It's boring.
Everyone has their preference.
It's the same. Pakistan...
has a list of products that India cannot export to Pakistan.
- Pakistan has a list of banned Indian exports. - Yes.
There's around 6,000 produces that are banned.
Recently, the list has been cut down to 1,205 products.
There is of course a little bit of competition between the two countries.
Pakistani dramas are fine.
(It ends in a nice way.)
All right. Thanks to the cooperative understanding between nations,
I feel that the Korean peninsula's cultural exports and other export sectors...
are suffering. My heart aches because of this.
I'd like to see the country return to stability after the government is settled.
One of the tasks for the new government will be to find a new peaceful resolution.
- They have to act calmly and objectively when they tackle this. - Yes.
All right. Let's invite the Korean representative for today.
He's high-kicked 10 years of his life away.
He was a recent icon and now become a hunter looking for a spot on variety shows.
It's Choi Min-Yong.
(The 141st Korean representative is Choi Min-Yong.)
(Eyes widening)
(The Korean Hanbok Fairy Choi Min-Yong?)
- He really is a unique character. - That is nice.
(I've never met a Korean representative like him.)
- Welcome. - Welcome.
Welcome.
- Take a seat everyone. - Okay.
Please sit.
- I will. - The eldest should sit first.
- This was your idea, right? - Yes, it was.
While wearing this hanbok,
I will listen to the normal representatives from each country respectively.
I was going to prepare four precious things for study as well.
- You were going to write it down. - Yes, I'm going to write everything down.
- I see. - I brought along a note book and pen.
(The returning variety show student has come prepared.)
- Could you introduce yourself? - Okay.
I dreamed of becoming a nationally recognized actor. I'm not there yet.
I'm the man who will become a nationally recognized actor. My name is Choi Min-Yong.
(Welcome)
- You haven't aged a day. - Right.
- Everyone, he's the same age as me. - Really?
(Shocked)
(Whispering)
- They are complete opposites. - He looks so young.
- Isn't the reaction a little overboard? - You really look young.
- It's your first time seeing him. Why are you shocked?. - He's older than me.
He knows how to react well.
What is your secret?
(Interested)
(Thinking)
I don't wash that often.
- Don't you wash often? - I think that's important.
- You grow older if you wash too much. - Right.
It's not good to wash too often.
It's not good to put on makeup every day as well.
If I'm not filming something, I won't put makeup on.
- Who puts on makeup when they're not filming? - Right.
- It's the same with me. - Me too.
- Me too. - I see. I thought I was the only one.
(He brazenly evades being cornered.)
I haven't worked on a project for 10 years.
- I see. - That's right.
As I slowly prepared for a new project to do,
- you can accumulate youth. - I see.
- Shall we begin? - Let's hear the issue brought to us by the Korean representative.
"In the era of smart devices,"
" I dream and idealize of living in harmony with nature and..."
"prefer not to use smart devices."
"Am I abnormal?"
Is this true?
- This is true. - Really?
- He hasn't worked on any films or dramas for 10 years, right? - Yes.
During that period, he lived in the mountains.
- He lived in the mountains. - That's because...
at the peak of his popularity...
- he unexpectedly... - He unexpectedly moved into the mountains.
Was it like, "Living in Nature"?
It wasn't like I was living off the mountain.
For a period of two years, I went into a period of introspection.
I took this time to examine myself.
I also wanted to take some time to think about what kind of life I wanted to live.
I wanted some time to think about all of this.
You said it was a period of introspection, but as I understand it,
wasn't it because you had an argument with your neighbor?
- You tried to spin it too much. - There is that rumor.
That was the trigger that lead to it.
Before this, I did wonder when I'd get to experience living in the mountains.
- You were looking for an opportunity? - Yes. And this opportunity came.
My upstairs neighbors were really noisy.
I thought it was the opportune time. I didn't have any work at that time.
Which mountain did you live in?
It was a mountain around Mamyeong-ri in Pocheon.
In English you'd refer to it as a container.
- In Korean... - I see. A container.
You can just call it a container. You don't have to try and be proper.
Was it like a container that they have on ships?
- It would have been very simple. - That's how he lived.
He said it would have been simple.
Inside these container houses,
I built another container inside this one.
I built it as a practice model.
I used it as practice for the house...
I wanted to build the home for my future wife.
I wanted to build my own house.
I worked on a variety of skills during those two years.
- Goodness. You have a lot of qualifications. - You did a lot.
He has a forklift, bus, and a boating licenses.
I learned and attained licenses that I thought I would need or was curious about.
I tried to attain those.
Why did you get a boating license when you don't have a boat?
- He has a boat. - Do you have a yacht?
Most people think of a yacht or a house boat.
Anything that floats can be considered a boat.
(He attacks them with facts.)
- Anything that floats is classified as a boat. - Right.
- It has a motor at the back. - Whether it has a motor or not.
- That's a boat. - He's right.
In my hometown, do you know the part that goes on the Tyre?
- The part in the Tyre. - The rubber?
We tie four of those together,
and place wood on top of that.
That's also a boat.
- I see. - Gosh.
When you take the boat, where do you go?
- Let's say your girlfriend wants to go wakeboarding. - Right.
- I got my boat license for this reason. - Water ski.
- What was it? - My friends go wakeboarding in the summer, right?
It's the sport where a person holds onto a rope as the boat speed on.
I didn't like the feeling of being dragged around.
- So? I see. You wanted to be the one driving the boat. - Yes.
- You didn't want to be dragged around. - My friends...
liked it and they'd say, "Let's go wakeboarding."
So, I decided to be the one dragging my friends around.
I found out later that you needed a boating license.
So, I thought I should get the first class license while I was at it.
My life has...
never been about making my life easier. I have never done anything for myself.
I see.
("Don't let boats or life drag you around." Choi Min-Yong)
- That wasn't bad. - Anyway,
there are a lot of people who are sick of city life...
- and dream of living in nature. Just like Min-Yong. - Yes.
If you could live with nature, where would you like to live?
- Where would you live? - This question is hard.
If you wanted to live with nature,
would you become a farmer and live on a farm?
Or would you live by the sea and become a fisherman?
Would you choose to become a mushroom hunter and live on the mountain?
- You'd be hunting herbs and mushrooms. - Right.
If you would choose to live on a farm, raise your hand. In 1, 2 and 3.
(Guillaume, Christian, Zahid and Lucky raised their hands.)
(The four members at the end would choose to be farmers.)
As expected of Guillaume.
He'd choose a place to raise cows.
He'd catch and eat them.
- All right. Next the sea. - The sea.
- Gosh. - How is it that we've divided equally into 3 groups of 4?
What about the mountains?
This is interesting.
- How did this happen? - This is fascinating.
Why would you live on a farm?
When you live on a farm,
I don't think you'd ever go hungry.
If you can't catch a fish, you'd go hungry, right?
- Right. - There are so many fishes that are seasonal.
- I wouldn't starve. - Guillaume worries about starving.
Also, when you own land,
you can raise a variety of different animals.
As a business,
I think there's a high possibility that it'd be very successful.
- You were thinking about making money. - I see. As a job.
When you think of a farm,
you have to plant the seeds and wait a very long time for the harvest.
For a fisherman, we can just catch it and eat it.
- But you might not catch anything. Farms are safe. - No.
- If the weather is bad on a farm, - Right.
- what will you do? - What if you fell into the ocean while fishing?
You'd die.
(They are arguing and defending their position.)
- What if a typhoon hits? - As I said before, you could starve.
- As I say all the time, you'll just die. - Right.
Oogi, do you like fishing?
- No, I haven't. - I see. You should try it before you decide.
- Right. It's not easy. - I say this...
because fishing isn't about technique.
You need the stomach for it.
I'm saying you need to be born with it.
- Right. - I once caught a fish with a harpoon.
- Really? - Yes. I caught a fish with a harpoon.
- Is that possible? - Can you catch a fish with that?
(In modern times, people dive with a harpoon gun.)
(This is real footage that was filmed.)
I grew up living on an island.
- So I grew up catching octopus. - Did you say octopus?
- Really? - Yes.
- If you put your hands in like this, - They just come out?
they just come out by themselves.
They have suction cups.
- I caught them. - I see.
- That sounds fun. - Right. You have to try it first.
When I was young, there was a program called agriculture vacation.
All the students had to go and farm during the vacation.
You have to enjoy it.
You don't have to wait for the fish to take the bait.
You have an apricot tree next to you.
You have a cherry tree next to that. It's all there.
You can pick those when you're hungry.
I also...
have tried farming.
But what I remember about farming is,
that you have your face to the ground and your back to the sky.
You have to work in a very uncomfortable position.
- Right. - In the summer, the sweat hits the ground like rain pouring down.
Then, do farmers do nothing and just cook bulgogi?
- No. - Bulgogi doesn't just appear.
- That's not it. - Please don't fight.
- Yes. - You're talking about where you want to live. Why are you fighting?
- It's about preference. - Why are you criticizing him?
- It's his choice. - Don't fight.
I grew up living by the sea, so I can't survive without fish.
When I went to a fishing village, I realized how hard it was.
I don't have the energy or strength to run a farm.
So, I'd rather go to the mountains. There's a lot of things to dig up.
You could survive on that. And you can also hunt.
By doing that, I believe you could live comfortably.
After I gave up on my dreams on becoming a soccer player,
my dream was to become a park ranger.
- Is that so? - It's because when I was young,
my hobby was to wake up earlier than everyone else...
and go forage for mushrooms.
You need a license to go mushroom hunting.
- Also you can't take more than 2kg of mushroom. - I see.
But if you're talented, of course, you're going to get more than 2kg.
Did you dig up more than 2kg of mushrooms?
- Sorry? - Did you?
Of course. I...
- caught enough to fill a bed sheet. - I see.
You're not allowed to do that. I was always afraid of being caught by park rangers.
- If you get caught, my dad did tell me to throw it out, - You have to pay a fine.
- Right. - So, I wanted to become a park ranger.
Since he mentioned this, I'd just like to add that this is also a problem in Korea.
- In the mountains. - Why are you here today?
I'm not sure either.
- He's a very famous guru from Pocheon. - I've recently heard a few things.
- Italy has laws against that, and so does Korea. - Right.
It's illegal to pick acorns, pine nuts and so forth from the mountains.
You're not allowed to do that.
- You can't just pick acorns. - You mentioned the limit was 2kg.
The law states that without permission it is illegal to pick produce from the forest.
This is why so many wild boars come down to the city from the mountains.
There's nothing to eat on the mountains.
I really wanted to come on JTBC and mention this to the viewers.
- Right. - That is very important information.
I know the arboretum around Pocheon.
They keep coming up to the mountains to pick acorns.
What is the surname of that person?
The person's surname is Park.
(The person's surname is Park.)
Mr. Park. If you're watching this,
- don't do it. - We'll make it a head line on "JTBC News Room".
- Really? - Yes.
Through the media, I'd like to give a big warning to Mr. Park.
(Mr. Choi is filing a complaint about Mr. Park.)
- You can't do it. - What he's saying is correct.
When we pick mushrooms,
most people normally cut the top part of the mushroom and go.
You're not allowed to do that. You have to cut it from the root.
We have to do this so a new mushroom can grow.
- What's really funny about Mr. Park is... - Yes?
that he's a building owner.
- He's a building owner. - Yes?
But he goes to the mountains to illegally pick mushrooms.
He comes back with the illegally picked acorns and...
If you're going to wash acorns, you need a tremendous amount of water.
He uses the water from a public bathroom.
- That's the taxpayers money. - He's stepped over the line.
He's a building owner.
Please don't do something like that again.
(I don't think Mr. Park will do that again.)
All right. Min-Yong, where would you like to live?
I'm part of the mountain behind and water in front faction.
I like a place where there is a mountain behind me and water in front of me.
Rather than a river, I would prefer the sea.
- So, you're saying a fishing village? - I prefer a place that is close...
- Yes? - but with a mountain behind me.
You can't pick like that.
- You can't. - You're being selfish.
- Everyone would do that. - You can only pick one.
Well, firstly,
until I'm 60, I'm going to live in the western side,
No. We want you to pick one.
- Not until your 60. - Is it the sea?
I'll just pick the sea.
Goodness me.
(Welcome to the sea faction.)
We like things to be clear.
- Okay. I'll pick the sea. - Okay.
All right. This is today's issue.
We will now begin the official discussion on...
whether it is abnormal to want to live with nature.
(Official discussion)
We'll be talking about living along with nature.
There must be some famous people...
who chose to live as a recluse or with nature.
In Italy, the people who choose to live as a recluse...
are monks and nuns.
If you go into the mountains in Italy,
- it's very similar to the temples in Korea, - Right.
it's very similar to that in Italy.
- We call these hermitages. - It's right there.
- Yes. We have a lot of those. - Hermitage.
- Just looking at that makes me feel lonely. - Right.
But the people who live there try and complete their life's mission...
to live in a hermitage.
- In the past the people who lived in the hermitage only prayed. - Okay.
From the 16th century a new rule was established called, "Pray and Work".
It commands them to pray as well as work.
From that moment on, the hermitages started to create a lot of products.
If you go to Italy, you'll see that all the famous cosmetic brands like cosmetics,
wine, beer, and perfumes...
- were made in hermitages. - Really?
They had a very important job in the past,
they were responsible for copying older texts onto new books.
Thanks to that, we have a lot of knowledge.
- Yes, we do. - Right.
- It was all possible because of the rule. - Right.
In Pakistan, we also had an ethnic group called Sufism.
There culture still has influence in Pakistan.
They were a culture that preached and practiced stoicism and penance.
Among the practices there was something called chilla.
This is...
the practice of going to a place for 40 days where there are few people...
and pray. You're not allowed to eat a lot or talk.
This was the work that they had to do.
However, if there was a woman who did something wrong,
they'd dig up a grave...
and step into the grave. They would perform chilla inside the grave.
But the neighbors worried because they couldn't see her.
They informed the police. And the police came to her house.
They saw the grave.
They opened it up and found her praying inside.
It had been over seven days.
(They dug up the dirt.)
(They opened up the casket.)
(They found a person inside.)
(She had prayed in the dark for seven days.)
They asked her to get out, but she wouldn't.
She told them that, she'd only come out after her chilla had ended.
So, they forced her out.
You can't criticize her for her beliefs.
- Have you heard of Burt's Bees? - Yes. The lip balm.
They do make lip balms.
They also make hand lotions.
The founder had lived as a recluse.
- Is that so? - Yes.
He had grown up in New York.
But he gave that life up and moved to Maine.
He raised bees, and realized he could make money.
He started the business and his business grew to 3.5 billion dollars.
He said that he was satisfied.
- He moved back to Maine, - He went back.
and continued to raise bees alone.
Unfortunately, he passed away two years ago.
But he was one of the few who led a very naturalistic life...
and one of the few to have a successful business off of that.
Actually, there's a real Tarzan in Spain.
- In Spain? - Yes, there's a real Tarzan.
He was called Marcos Rodriguez.
He was abandoned by his parents when he was seven years old.
But he was able to stay alive in the mountains somehow.
- Eventually, they found out he was living together with the wolves. - Oh.
(He became a member of the wolf pack...)
(and started his feral life as one of the wolves.)
(He was more used to howling than speaking.)
(Marcos was able to climb trees like Tarzan.)
Most importantly,
when that person went into the mountains and sent a signal...
When he howled,
real wolves would come down to greet him.
- Look. - He knows how to speak wolves.
(Howling)
(A friend arrives.)
(The wolf pack took him in when he was abandoned by his parents.)
(The friendship between man and wolf is unexplainable.)
Because of his experience,
he does a lot of lectures, teaching students about protecting the environment.
Yes, I think I saw that.
There's a very tiny island like Manhattan in one of India's harbors.
It's called North Sentinel Island.
The natives living on that island...
live like how people used to live 60,000 years ago.
Those natives do not want to change their livelihood...
into a more modern lifestyle.
To spread Islamic faith, the government of India...
have tried to make contact with them several times.
But they rejected the Islamic faith...
and would throw spears and arrows at them.
They're able to maintain their livelihood and live just like they did in the past.
Wow.
There are many different kinds of Eco friendly products out there.
Moss was very trendy in Japan recently.
Moss is just a species of foliage plant.
But they started to raise moss as a pet.
After seeing girls post pictures of their pet moss on social media,
they were nicknamed "Moss girls" because they liked moss.
Oh.
So for those moss girls,
- we got moss... - How long are you going to keep saying moss?
Are you going to keep saying moss?
Will you? Are you?
Will you keep doing that?
Anyway, for those moss girls, the hotel had moss...
(Laughing)
He kept saying moss again.
- They made moss packages for them. - Moss packages?
Yes, moss packages.
- What's that? - They would design the whole room with the image of moss.
It gave birth to moss rooms...
and food that looked like moss.
- Moss ice cream? - Moss ice cream.
- Moss ice cream. - Moss sherbet.
And there's also a moss trail.
- Moss trail? - You would use a magnifying glass...
and go into the mountain with specialists to observe moss.
Japan really has a lot of unusual hobbies.
But that moss room will be so humid.
And among our idols,
we have a Eco friendly idol group.
That idol group appeared around 2006.
They were called Idoling.
Those girls...
were idols that sent out Eco-friendly messages.
- Oh. - How?
But there's someone who dyed their hair in the middle.
That's natural dye.
That's natural dye?
- Beer? - It's berry wine.
- I see. - Anyway,
these people also sang songs that contained messages about the environment.
("Our Garden". Let's save it with our hands.)
(Our beloved Earth!)
And during the award ceremony,
they would present their plan of actions to save the environment.
They would say they wouldn't use wooden chopsticks at the convenience store.
Instead, they would use their personal chopsticks.
Or they'd say they would carry around tote bags.
Were they popular?
- Moss? - The group?
Moss...
Popular. Not moss. Please stop it.
I heard it as moss.
Yes, they were very popular. But unfortunately, they all graduated in 2015 so...
their group broke up.
- I'm sure they're all living very moss-like life. - Yes.
In France, it was trendy to raise chickens.
There was a site where you could adopt out chickens.
It was a business.
(There were various types of chickens available.)
My mother used to raise chickens in her garden too.
When I wanted to eat chicken, she'd go to the garden, catch them, and kill them...
to cook it for me.
I found it really interesting. Every morning at 5am,
my mother would take pictures of them and say she'll eat them.
And 20 minutes later, she'd upload new picture of her...
gutting the chickens.
Xinlin's mother is a really scary person.
His mother had a pretty impressive past.
But people who raise chicken really do take pictures before they eat them.
I guess you can't really name the chickens.
- They name them and eat them. - They do?
We tend to name them after politicians.
(We tend to name them after politicians.)
- You do? - Yes.
We don't really know what to say.
- It's Italian. - It's only in Italy?
- That's so interesting. - Yes.
But those chicken you raised are also animals.
Have you ever looked into their eyes?
I watched while my mother was killing them.
Personally, it wasn't easy for me to kill the chickens I raised.
There was a similar French article about what you just said.
People don't kill the chickens themselves.
Instead, they ask someone else to kill it for them.
- I see. - Yes.
In Montreal, there is an online garbage database.
When artist want to make something,
they can search for the materials on the internet and get them.
It's very convenient.
And even now, the air of Rocky Mountains...
- is still selling very well in China. - It is?
- Those can of airs? - Yes.
- I see. - Yes.
Some European made this product.
It's called Beijing Air Can.
It's made for those Chinese people living abroad,
when they grow homesick and want to breathe in their country's air.
But on the label, "choking hazard" is clearly written on the can.
- Choking hazard? - Yes.
Isn't it better to not breathe in Beijing's air?
- But because they miss it... - They miss it?
And recently, they set up a Eco friendly product in China.
It's a machine that can make the smog into artificial diamonds.
- The smog? - Yes. Someone in Netherlands invented this.
China actually set up those machines.
Because the smog is mostly made up of carbon,
when they compress it, it can be made into a diamond.
They actually sold it for five euros in Europe.
For us, the idea of selling air in a can...
makes absolutely no sense.
It feels like those countries are having a very hard time.
For us, we believe that natural resources...
should be protected with nature.
That's why we don't put our food in a refrigerator.
Where do you think we put it in? We put it in caves.
- Wow. - The cave is our refrigerator.
We call it gahkar. It literally means...
"ice rooms". During summer, the space underground is very cold.
That's why we put in all of our food there.
And when students finished school, they had to walk a long way back home.
During the old days, when we were students, we would survey the gahkar.
We knew where all the rich families put in their food.
We knew which caves had the best foods...
- Didn't they have security? - No, none.
We would just go and eat a lot.
- We would do this a lot... - They need to install some security cameras.
I'm sure each countries have their own natural remedies and healing sites.
What are some famous healing sites?
Actually, not a lot of foreigners might know about this...
but Italy has something similar to Korean herbal medicine.
When we're sick, we go to a place called erboristeria.
It's a pharmacy that only sell herbs.
They even have major for it in college.
They treat your illness with herbs.
- It's an alternative medicine? - Yes.
- Is it still in business in Italy? - Yes, it is.
There's a lot of them. There's an erboristeria for each village.
It's been really popular these days.
In China, there is a flower nicknamed the Herb of the Emperor called Saussurea.
It's a flower only found in China, Russia, and Kazakhstan.
It's only found on really high altitudes.
And it blooms once every five years.
And this flower is very effective for rheumatism.
And out of all those flowers, the ones found on Tian Shan are the most famous.
Wow.
I talked about the culture of Sufism before.
For 40 days, you can't talk, you can't eat, and you can't sleep.
That's why we tie our hair to the ceiling.
- The ceiling? - You tie it to the ceiling?
Yes, we do.
When we doze off, you feel the pull of your hair.
Since you can't fall asleep, if you use that method, you'll become a master.
Oh dear. That sounds very painful.
I'm sure the human fox had to pass such ordeals...
The human fox has to tie his tail.
- Yes, his tail... - For 40 days...
In India,
there's a treatment where you cure people with sounds.
It's called mantra.
- I'm sure Koreans and some foreigners... - It's popular in Korea too.
Yes, it's "Om Mani padme hum".
The "Om" is actually written in Sanskrit.
When you say, "Om", you receive special energy...
and are healed in various ways mentally.
(Om)
(It's often used as a treatment together with yoga in India.)
They sell a lot of CDs with the "Om" mantra on it.
You turn on that CD...
- and are treated all day. - That sounds good.
Do you know about the French paradox?
- I know. - Oh.
- Beef... - Fat...
You guys eat a lot of fatty food...
- but not a lot of you die from heart attacks. - Yes.
It's believed that drinking red wine...
- prevents heart diseases. - Yes.
But if they drink too much...
You shouldn't drink too much.
But actually, there was an old lady named Jeanne Calment.
She lived until she was 122 years old.
She said she would drink a glass of wine every day.
And she smoked cigarettes until she was 117 years old.
The only reason she stopped...
was because her eyes got really bad.
She said she couldn't light her cigarette anymore.
She stopped smoking when she was 117 years old,
only because she couldn't see well?
- Because she couldn't light up her cigarette. - Yes.
This is really a paradox.
- Wow. - Even though she smoked so much...
In Germany, there's a city called Bad Worishofen.
That city is famous for being a treatment center.
Nearly 900,000 people visit that city every year.
But that city was actually a peaceful small town village.
But a clergyman by the name of Sebastian Kneipp said...
that if you wash, bathe, and massage yourself with cold water,
it's much more healthier than going into an hot spring.
He developed the Kneipp therapy.
After that, a lot of people visit that city to practice his therapy.
- It's very famous. - Yes.
For us, it would obviously be the hot spring.
Actually, there are a lot of...
different ingredients going into the hot spring.
- That's true. - There are more than ten thousand, right?
Only counting the ones in use right now, there are close...
to 17,000 different hot springs.
There are a lot of types and a lot of rankings.
There are ones for atopic eczema or ones for better circulation...
There are also ones for whitening the skin...
There's also one with carbonic acid. It's really good for hair loss.
- What if you're already bald? - That's all right.
It makes your hair grow again?
- The carbonic acid baths has that healing property. - Yes.
There are people who try to go...
to dangerous places that people don't know about.
There's also a ranking for the most dangerous hot spring.
(An hot spring right next to a sulfur.)
(Some hot springs are right next to active geysers.)
Speaking on hot springs,
a lot of people go to hot spring for healing purposes.
- Let's use this time to brag about hot springs. - Yes.
What's more hotter?
(Hot spring time, What's more hotter?)
All right.
Does America have any?
- They have hot springs. - Yes, we do.
There's a really famous place in Alaska.
It's called Chena Hot Springs Resort.
Hot water is brought up naturally from the ground...
and you just enjoy it and swim in it.
Long ago, Bugok Hawaii was really famous in Korea, right?
You can see it as the American version of Bugok Hawaii.
Bugok Hawaii?
And Alaska is known for their salmon, right?
Dipping into the hot springs after eating salmon would be really nice.
No.
You should eat after you dip in the hot springs for better digestion.
- That sounds incredible. - How about Japan?
We think differently.
- We have to eat before we go into the hot springs. - Why?
- Because going in with an empty stomach... - Makes you dizzy?
- Yes, it makes you feel dizzy. - I see.
That's why when you go to a ryokan in Japan,
- they give you a small snack... - Yes.
- They always give you something. - Yes.
They give you that to prevent dizziness.
That is why we have soy milk in the Korean saunas and hot spring.
Actually, we have a lot more things now...
- We have stone cooked eggs... - And sikhye.
- Yes. - What you say makes sense.
When we were looking at America's picture, I realized we had something similar.
We have a village on the way to the Himalaya mountains.
There's a very famous hot spring called Chuutrun.
Chuutrun actually means "warm waters" in our language.
But when you go into those waters, your back acne clears up.
- Back acne? - Yes.
- Back acne? - There are many people with back acne issues.
- Yes, I'm sure. - It clears out your acne everywhere.
Your acne everywhere?
- Every acne. - Every acne.
But one Korean columnist...
described it as the river to Hades.
The road to the Himalayas is very dangerous.
I see. It's great to go there but you could die going there?
- Because it's so dangerous? - Yes.
We also have a lot of natural hot springs in Italy too.
There's a list of all the prettiest hot springs.
Last year, the top hot spring was Saturnia located in Tuscany.
It was really beautiful.
It's free, right?
Yes, of course. Most of our hot springs are naturally made...
so there's no resorts and there's no entrance fee.
You just park your car and go in.
Wow.
Mexico also has hot springs.
The most famous one...
is called Grusta Tolantongo.
What?
I highly recommend that place.
Because there's so many lime stones there.
Because of the lime stones, the color of the water...
- looks just like the waters of Turkey. - Emerald colored.
And when you go there, there are a lot of log cabins.
- You can sleep there and swim outside whenever you'd like. - Kids would love that.
- It's a very great place. - It's incredible.
It's so picturesque.
When you go to Yukon in Canada,
you can enjoy the spa while watching the aurora borealis.
Yes, it's very relaxing.
- Wow. - That's real footage?
This one's the best.
(Takini Hot Springs, known for its view of the aurora borealis.)
(Under the aurora borealis,)
(you can enjoy the peaceful hot spring.)
Unfortunately, the aurora season will come to an end soon.
And they were fully booked when I checked on their site.
But when I checked this morning, they had one space open.
You're giving us an update?
I highly recommend you go there during the winter.
- Wow. - That looks amazing.
It won't lose out to your country's hot springs.
It's very beautiful.
Located in Gangwon Province, Seorak Mountains, it's called Choksan Hot Springs.
- Choksan? - Is the water good?
It's famous for its good water.
Only the locals used to know about it.
But because words spread amongst the people,
it became a very popular place.
The best hot springs...
are located in Gangwon Province, Seorak Mountains, in Choksan Hot Spring.
They did an international study...
which stated that people living in the cities are bound to be stressed more easily.
- The probably of them suffering mental issues is twice as high. - That high?
But when people live with nature and see more green,
they predicted that it would be good for the people's mental health.
The color green is really good for people.
It gives them a feeling of safety.
Actually, although seeing is important, smell is also important too.
In Japan, they put some dried trees...
into a bag. When people smelled that,
their brain activity became more stable. It was effective in soothing them.
- When you go to Japan, there are hinoki baths... - Made from cypress trees...
They have hot springs made out of those woods.
They emit a smell...
while you take a bath so it's therapeutic.
It keeps away bugs too.
When you go into the sauna in our country,
it's completely laughable.
When you use cypress woods,
they have to be put together...
to fit each other.
- But most of them don't do that. - What do they do?
They use nails. Metal nails.
What's so good about that?
- You'll get rust in the water. - Yes, it'll rust.
Although he looks modern, it's like he came from Cheonghakdong.
- You're like one of those wisemen. - The same goes for the furniture.
If you use the wood as it is, it has therapeutic properties.
You don't get atopic eczema and it's good for your skin.
The house you used to live in in the mountains...
- was made with cypress woods? - No, it's just a shipping container.
- What? - He lives inside a metal box.
In a metal box?
His words don't match his actions.
What he says...
- is different from his... - You were critical of them using nails.
But you live in a metal box.
You live with metal.
- You're Iron Man. - Where did you learn to speak Korean, Chris?
In Korea.
- In Korea? - I learned it here.
Have you ever heard of storage in storage?
When I built a storage inside a storage box,
do you think I just made it? No, I made it out of wood.
- Oh. - I see.
Although I look like this, I still use Kakaotalk.
I'll make sure to give you additional explanations later through text.
I'm warning you.
He'll send you a message shortly.
Can you each tell us about your country's famous green houses?
We have a tree house. Just like the name,
it's a house built on a tree.
Lately, there's been a trend in secret bases.
When you were young, you should have secret bases.
As it got popular, a lot of tree houses have been popping up.
But there's this one tree house in Nagano...
- that was listed as one of the top ten dangerous buildings in the world. - Why?
- Look at that. - What?
That looks really dangerous.
In fact, the architect who built that tree house said it was dangerous.
There's no safety measures for earthquakes.
- It'll fall really fast. - The one next to that one...
is the "dirt boat" that can fly in the sky.
This is what it looks like inside.
(It is held up by four cables.)
(If you move,)
(the house moves too.)
But actually, that tree house is often used for tea ceremonies.
That's what they use it for.
- Dirt Boat? - Yes.
There was a man from Hunan in his fifties...
who made a house by digging into the rocks of a mountain.
It took him six years to make that house.
Although the house is 30m below ground,
there's a garden, warehouse, and kitchen among other things.
He said he wanted to live there forever and never go outside.
It looked like he came out on the right.
He came out to take a picture.
He came out for a picture.
- For a picture? - Yes.
Looks like he's trying to escape.
You sure he's not trying to escape? "Please, save me."
(Is he escaping? "Please save me.")
- Have you heard of Ibiza? - Yes.
Ibiza? Isn't that...
- for night clubs? - It's known for its nightlife.
- You know? - Yes, of course.
(The world's best island for vacations and festivals.)
(With a great nightlife...)
(They party in the morning as well. It's a party paradise.)
(A pilgrimage site for all clubbers around the world)
The image of Ibiza was completely different in the past.
In the past it was a haven for hippies.
When the US declared war in Vietnam,
a lot of US citizens fled and hid in Ibiza.
- They didn't want to go to war. - Yes, the parents didn't want them to go to war.
- That's when the Eco-house village was first established. - Okay.
Although most of the villages have disappeared, there are a few left.
In the northern part of Pakistan, near my home,
our life style feels like an Eco-house.
All of our houses are built from wood.
Or they are made from dirt and stones.
- My home is very picturesque when you see a photo. - This is real, right?
Min-Yong, what would be your ideal Eco-house?
- Would it be a container? - I'm curious.
I had practiced and honed my skills for two years in the mountains for this.
There are houses that are built from dirt.
You use dirt, stone and wood.
You use these to build a house.
This is called an earthbag house. Back in 1984, NASA...
wanted to try and build a base up on the moon.
They needed to put all the equipment inside the space ship.
They were trying to figure out how to build a base on the moon.
Inside the sandbag,
they came up with an idea of putting the sand and stones on the moon inside.
- That's a nice idea. - They wanted to take these onto the ship...
- and stack them up to build a house. - That's a nice idea.
It would be more tolerable than a concrete building.
It's more solid and safer.
This design is being used as environment friendly house.
A lot of people are building houses like that. This is being Eco-friendly.
All right. We go to nature but sometimes we can become isolated with nature, right?
Yes. In British Columbia there is a camp.
It's a camp for troublesome juveniles.
They come here for a month instead of a correction facility.
It's a place where they get educated on the forest.
When you go there, you can't even make a call on your phone.
Is it like a training center?
- It's something like that. - It's like a correctional facility.
In Germany we also have a camp for exiles.
This isn't a camp for criminals, it's rather a camp for troubled adolescents.
They send them to Siberia, which has a temperature of minus 55 degrees.
(Gasping)
While they are there, they can't use cell phones.
They don't have access to computers either.
They don't even get access to a CD player.
They don't have access to CD players. It's like a labor camp.
That is how severe and harsh it is.
They would want to sleep in the evening, right?
But to sleep in the evening,
they have to wash the blankets and pillows.
If the bed is dirty, they have to sleep on the floor.
- But they can't sleep because the floor is cold. - They're mentally training them.
Since there are no machines at that camp,
they have to light fires and wash the blankets there.
- They have to light the fire. - They have to do it.
They learn to be responsible.
If they miss one thing there,
it results in them missing out on something they wanted to do.
They learn responsibility from the very start.
- They learn that actions have consequences. - Yes.
- Let's find out how everyone thinks about this issue. - Yes.
Do you think sending problematic adolescence to correctional camps...
like in Germany is effective or not?
(Is this an effective way to deal with problematic adolescence or not?)
If you think this will be effective please press the button. In 3, 2 and 1.
- I think it would be a good idea. - Nik press it.
(It's 5 to 6.)
- Do you press it if you agree? - Yes.
(The result is 6 for and 6 against.)
I believe it is effective. As we talked about before,
these students have specific and unique problems, right?
I don't believe this is hardship. I believe this is for the good of the students.
I believe that this is a unique environment for the children.
This training is...
about teaching them what they have to do in order for them to get what they want.
I believe that this environment is an opportunity to teach them this.
As I see it as well, when it comes to education...
the environment is more important than the process.
If I could add one more thing, these problematic students...
can't pick on other students. That's why I look at this in a positive light.
But one thing I can't understand is,
why do German parents continue to send their children far away?
- They are sending away for a month. - Right. They're sending them to Russia.
Right. You won't see them.
There are no cities near the camp.
There is nothing around the camp.
They can learn properly at the camp. If they run away, they'll die.
- That's why they won't run away. - It really is a banishment.
It really is a banishment camp.
The name of the camp really is banishment camp.
I don't believe that it will be effective at all.
The reason is, when you send problematic adolescence together,
- that could create an even worse adolescent child. - No.
- Christian is right. - Why?
When problematic kids hang out together,
the problem will only become worse.
I've had experience on this.
- One of my friends, - Yes.
was a trouble maker. He'd take drugs and steal.
Since our parents were well off,
they sent him to a banishment camp.
But when you hang out with people who are similar to you,
you exchange information and ideas.
- For example, what do you do in prison. - A banishment camp is different.
- How you'd evade the police. - This is different.
- My friend went there... - Right.
and after he came out, he became even worse.
Now, he lives in hiding.
That's why we've been saying that the environment is important.
- Right. - It's minus 55 degrees at the camp.
- It won't feel like he's on a vacation. - Right.
He needs to survive.
They'll have to work together to survive.
They won't have time to share information.
They won't have the time.
He told me that they do think about that.
- Right. But if they go there... - But...
Hold on. Hold on a second.
What I'd like to mention that,
the parents who send their children...
to this camp,
- have tried everything to help their children. - They've tried everything else.
They've sent them to counseling. But...
they send their kids with tears in their eyes as a last resort.
The children there...
are incredibly self-centered children.
- I understand. - They're incredibly selfish.
They are incredibly self-centered children.
They only think about themselves.
- Even at the camp... - How can the camp train them out of that?
At the camp, the kids for the first time,
face and learn how to solve societal problems.
For most of the kids who come back, they've repented.
And the apologize to the parents for their behavior.
They also promise that they'll help out more.
- So, this camp is a last resort. - Yes.
- It has become a last resort. - A last resort.
But I'd like to know why they're being sent to such a cold and far away place.
I mean there are correctional facilities and various programs.
(Arguing)
- No. - Why are you saying that?
- It's because... - A prison is...
- Rather than sending them to a cold place... - No.
Christian, I think the kids would hate your idea more.
- I mean... - This could be a more effective solution.
Because you're giving them a real shock.
This camp is just torture.
- This is just torture. - No.
- No, it isn't. - That is just torture.
- And Mexican prisons aren't? - Think about Mexican prisons.
- This camp is nothing but torture. - Hold on a second.
If you do everything that they ask,
you can have a comfortable time.
- Because we're sending them to a cold... - That's the same as prison.
- They learn how tough life really is. - There's no difference.
This is the same as a prison.
- I think both ideas are the worst solutions. - Really?
Prisons and banishment camps are both bad ideas.
The reason why kids become problematic is because...
- This is the case for 95 percent of all cases. - The parents.
It's because the parents have problems.
Yes, that's why this is a good idea.
They lived inside a problematic family. That's why they have problems.
The solution shouldn't be send them away from their family.
- Right. - Then, should we send the parents to the camp, too?
No, I'm not just saying all of this.
My favorite professor has worked for over 20 years...
at a Children's Court.
When the children have caused a problem, they ask the parents to come.
They try to help the kids have a more positive relationship within their family.
They communicate. By creating a better environment, there are less problems.
- But... - Alberto...
When I heard about the camp,
I feel like the only parents who could send their kids away like that...
would be German parents.
- Well... - How could you send your own child to Russia?
- But... - Not long ago,
- I empathize with you because I'm a dad, too. - Could you send your child?
You have to educate your child from an early age.
- The camps have no effect. - But that's from a parent's perspective.
Kids going through puberty hate their parents nagging.
I think it would make things worse if you made them stay together.
- Are you saying a parent's nagging is worse than minus 55 degrees? - No...
- I'm just saying that environment would be more effective. - I see.
I agree with Alberto. In my country, we have our own way of fixing troublesome kids.
Our solution is different. We force them to get married.
- All right... - That's a little extreme.
- No, it's true. We do this... - You should just tie their hair back like this.
- The reason why we do this is, - The reason is...
If you force them to get married, they'll fall in love and change.
Also, when they have kids of their own,
they say that people change.
- That's why... - They need to have kids of their own.
Yes. That's why we use this solution.
Do you really need to send your kids to Siberia?
- But Zahid... - But...
Let's listen to Min-yong's thoughts first.
- Let's listen to his thoughts. - You're against this, right?
The question is whether this is effective.
That is the question, right?
Yes.
Neither of these solutions are effective. It will have the opposite effect.
When they come out into the real world, the problem will be even bigger.
"I survived the banishment camp in Siberia."
"Do you think I can't survive this?" And they'll do even worse things.
- Right. - You're saying that they'll be galvanized to commit more serious crimes.
With people like this, you have to warn them from a young age...
and give them even more love and attention.
By doing this, they'll find society more comfortable.
- We should give them unlimited love and affection. - We'll end it here.
That was the issue of the 141st Korean representative, Choi Min-Yong.
We talked about whether it is abnormal to want to live with nature.
How did you find discussing the topic with people from around the globe?
It was a new experience for me.
I got to meet and talk with representatives from around the world.
I found it a happy, pleasurable and an enjoyable experience.
I also learned a lot of valuable information here.
That was how I found today. I'd like to thank you all.
Until the entire world is at peace,
please take care and keep your spirits up.
Thank you very much.
(Until there is peace in the world stay healthy and keep your spirits up.)
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting.
Until the day we all become normal
Hit the firewood until you sweat.
We hope that you'll continue to live with nature until the end.
- He'll have to sweat a lot, right? - Yes.
- He'll have to sweat blood as well. - Yes.
(Blood Tears and sweat)
(This is my last breath)
- Take it all - We'll adjourn now.
(Prime Minister Abe's approval rating has drastically dropped.)
(This is his greatest crisis since he took office.)
(Will his voluntarily resignation raise his approval rating?)
(His approval rating needs to be two percent.)
(He needs to resign.)
(We need to give him a chance to recover.)
(It will be difficult for his approval rating to recover.)
(Why do we have to wait until his term ends?)
(No.)
(Western people always go on about freedom.)
(Gosh. Really?)
(It's a heated debate between the East and West.)
(The studio fills in with the sounds of popular folk songs from their country.)
(Why are the representatives so excited?)
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(Red ocean means disaster.)
(The stability of the red ocean might come crashing down.)
(The representatives get into a heated debate after they're filled with fun.)
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(A loneliness insurance business that no one else had thought of)
(I once faced ruin on the red ocean.)
(You can't hear his story without tears flowing out.)
(There is a business I'd like to start.)
(I can't tell you.)
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(No, I can't say it here.)
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